Comments on: How NOT to plagiarize on Helium: A Steward explains http://heliumblog.wordpress.com/2009/06/30/how-not-to-plagiarize-on-helium-a-steward-explains/ Blogging...when we should be writing Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:34:23 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Kate Johnson http://heliumblog.wordpress.com/2009/06/30/how-not-to-plagiarize-on-helium-a-steward-explains/#comment-849 Kate Johnson Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:36:32 +0000 http://heliumblog.wordpress.com/?p=822#comment-849 As a teacher and a writer, I have found that plagiarism and citing sources nearly always require constant attention. Paul, thank you for posting John's well written and informative piece. For those who feel irritated with the process, they must realize that this is an intellectual property rights issue. If I create it, it's mine. If someone else created it, I have to give them credit. Anything less than that is stealing, plain and simple. Kate Johnson Primary Education Steward As a teacher and a writer, I have found that plagiarism and citing sources nearly always require constant attention.

Paul, thank you for posting John’s well written and informative piece. For those who feel irritated with the process, they must realize that this is an intellectual property rights issue. If I create it, it’s mine. If someone else created it, I have to give them credit. Anything less than that is stealing, plain and simple.

Kate Johnson
Primary Education Steward

]]> By: Erica http://heliumblog.wordpress.com/2009/06/30/how-not-to-plagiarize-on-helium-a-steward-explains/#comment-828 Erica Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:56:28 +0000 http://heliumblog.wordpress.com/?p=822#comment-828 I think plagiarizing and citing sources has become more tedious for writers, however. I did write an excellent article that wasn't plagiarized and listed all sources consulted. I just wanted to be honest, not appear dishonest simply because I listed sources consulted. But this is a great post anyway. I think plagiarizing and citing sources has become more tedious for writers, however. I did write an excellent article that wasn’t plagiarized and listed all sources consulted. I just wanted to be honest, not appear dishonest simply because I listed sources consulted. But this is a great post anyway.

]]> By: Wendy Loft http://heliumblog.wordpress.com/2009/06/30/how-not-to-plagiarize-on-helium-a-steward-explains/#comment-827 Wendy Loft Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:00:19 +0000 http://heliumblog.wordpress.com/?p=822#comment-827 Dear John: Thankyou for addressing one of the concerns that has crossed my mind during 2009, when more frequently I see sources at the end of articles listed during my rating sessions, and as I try to prepare to write articles again after a long, long period of absence. You have certainly clarified and answered the concerns and questions about plagiarism for me. Thanks a heap. Now, perhaps if I can "settle" long enough, I will concentrate and attempt to pick up where I left off a couple years ago. Dear John:
Thankyou for addressing one of the concerns that has crossed my mind during 2009, when more frequently I see sources at the end of articles listed during my rating sessions, and as I try to prepare to write articles again after a long, long period of absence. You have certainly clarified and answered the concerns and questions about plagiarism for me. Thanks a heap. Now, perhaps if I can “settle” long enough, I will concentrate and attempt to pick up where I left off a couple years ago.

]]> By: 3 J http://heliumblog.wordpress.com/2009/06/30/how-not-to-plagiarize-on-helium-a-steward-explains/#comment-819 3 J Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:48:36 +0000 http://heliumblog.wordpress.com/?p=822#comment-819 Plagiarism Hunters can carry this to excess and detect it when it doesn't really exist. "The German had accused him of gross plagiarism as well as faulty scholarship (no doubt ignorant of the wheeze that if you copy from one writer it's plagiarism, if you copy from a dozen it's scholarship)." -- The Loom of History copyright 1958 by Herbert J. Muller Chapter I, 4. (page 23 of 1966 Galaxy Book paperback from Oxford University Press) PlagiarismChecker detects this Tweet at http://twitter.com/Buckthorn/status/1429997439. One could argue Buckthorn wheezed out an old saw as an original thought. Others would much more rightly argue that any hemidemisemi-educated person would know it's a quote without quote marks being necessary. Elsewhere Buckthorn's tweets cite sources for lesser known quotations. PlagiarismChecker cannot detect the hundreds of times I've heard and uttered this old saw. By the way, I just now made up that word "hemidemisemi-educated" but felt quite certain others would have beat me to it. Google shows musicians used it a decade ago. Plagiarism Hunters can carry this to excess and detect it when it doesn’t really exist.
“The German had accused him of gross plagiarism as well as faulty scholarship
(no doubt ignorant of the wheeze that if you copy from one writer it’s plagiarism, if you copy from a dozen it’s scholarship).”
– The Loom of History copyright 1958 by Herbert J. Muller Chapter I, 4. (page 23 of 1966 Galaxy Book paperback from Oxford University Press)
PlagiarismChecker detects this Tweet at http://twitter.com/Buckthorn/status/1429997439.
One could argue Buckthorn wheezed out an old saw as an original thought. Others would much more rightly argue that any hemidemisemi-educated person would know it’s a quote without quote marks being necessary. Elsewhere Buckthorn’s tweets
cite sources for lesser known quotations.
PlagiarismChecker cannot detect the hundreds of times I’ve heard and uttered this old saw.
By the way, I just now made up that word
“hemidemisemi-educated” but felt quite certain others would have beat me to it. Google shows musicians used it a decade ago.

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